tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7820710126964541163.post5992293224573486050..comments2023-12-04T13:26:35.773-08:00Comments on TheoPoetic Musings: The Apostle And PoimenolatryTheoPoethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17169016780168243136noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7820710126964541163.post-77038149341166102192009-05-24T12:22:24.857-07:002009-05-24T12:22:24.857-07:00Thanks, likewise. I'll change that spelling, btw.
...Thanks, likewise. I'll change that spelling, btw.<br /><br />Yeah, I think that the 'word' -logos- means much more that just scriptures or 'the word of God'. <br /><br />I like the idea that some cosmologists and astrophysicists are coming to; that there appears to be some sort of order or logic to the universe that cannot easily be explained by randomness. That perhaps the energy and matter that make up the universe consists of bits of information, much like a cosmic computer program.<br /><br />http://focus.aps.org/story/v9/st27King Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11719101519748741966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7820710126964541163.post-63972260527928781102009-05-22T22:58:39.123-07:002009-05-22T22:58:39.123-07:00As always discussions with you are always refreshi...As always discussions with you are always refreshing!TheoPoethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17169016780168243136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7820710126964541163.post-28725678871370495112009-05-22T22:54:33.351-07:002009-05-22T22:54:33.351-07:00oops. mean instead of meoops. mean instead of meTheoPoethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17169016780168243136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7820710126964541163.post-79148889194465779002009-05-22T22:52:59.284-07:002009-05-22T22:52:59.284-07:00If you do make sure to change there to their---I'm...If you do make sure to change there to their---I'm not sure if that was a typo or from my source material. Anyways, if you have Facebook, you should see the discussion that I am involved in about my status message. One of my high school classmates actually said that Jesus is the bible and the bible is Jesus. Of course that's something I've heard before from King James Onlyist nutcases. Imagine if someone said Jesus is the Golden Calf and the Golden Calf is Jesus.<br /><br />Anyways, I believe this idea is based on a faulty reading of the English translation of John 1:1- <br />Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος. (en arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton theon kai theos en ho logos.) Had the authors of John meant what she wants it to me he or they would have written: Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ βύβλος, καὶ ὁ βύβλος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ βύβλος. (...biblos): in the beginning was the bible, and the bible was with God and the bible was God or similarly...hagiographa (Divine Writings). What are your thoughts?TheoPoethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17169016780168243136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7820710126964541163.post-12572230286012293762009-05-22T07:35:40.976-07:002009-05-22T07:35:40.976-07:00'and these frogs sit in there marsh and croak, "We...'and these frogs sit in there marsh and croak, "We are the only Christians" '<br /><br />I like that. I think I'll place that on my blog's side bar.King Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11719101519748741966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7820710126964541163.post-38612358465395740012009-05-21T23:20:16.071-07:002009-05-21T23:20:16.071-07:00Yeah it was a good movie...very enjoyable. Yeah, w...Yeah it was a good movie...very enjoyable. Yeah, we have some celebrity cults built around pastors in the area including my church though I know my pastors don't want that kind of thing. We also see cults of celebrity around Joel Osteen and John MacArthur among others as well as old school preachers such as C. H. Spurgeon or Karl Barth, too. I believe from my readings of Church History these ideas are natural holdovers from Judaism what with the Kohanim and the Levites. I'm not sure the Early Church meant to take these ideas as far as they did but by the time it evolved into the various Catholic Church traditions, believers were coming to terms with their beliefs. At this time the Ecumenical creeds were written so of course they needed enforcers of these creeds so naturally this kind of classist distinction between the clergy and the laity sprung up and this paved the way to the types of abuses with the church of Luther's day. Thankfully, Luther saw the real deal and turned ministry into what it always has been about serving God and serving others. <br /><br />Also, here's some interesting stuff, one of the early heresies condemned by the Roman Catholic Church and detested by Luther as well was a doctrinal purity movement in the same vain as modern day fundamentalism: the Donatist and Novatianist heretics, who believed the church was a type of ‘Noah’s Ark for the saints’ and that only the saints could be ordained to ministry---and whom Saint Augustine said of them: 'The clouds roll with thunder, that the House of the Lord shall be built throughout the earth: and these frogs sit in there marsh and croak, "We are the only Christians"'). See Article VIII of The Augsburg Confession from The Book Of Concord (Concordia: Lutheran Confessions)---pg. 34 in The (2006) Reader’s Edition---for more information on the Donatists. For the connection between the Fundamentalists and the Donatists---see pg. 43 (the sermon “Roots”) of Peter Cameron’s Necessary Heresies: Alternatives To Fundamentalism, where I first encountered Saint Augustine’s quote.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donatist and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NovatianismTheoPoethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17169016780168243136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7820710126964541163.post-29352469720344216362009-05-21T19:14:11.825-07:002009-05-21T19:14:11.825-07:00Good movie. Saw it a long time ago - I think I'll ...Good movie. Saw it a long time ago - I think I'll revisit it. And you are right on the money about the cult of the clergy. Personally, I think the Church started to slide down hill when they embraced the idea of a clergy and a laity. What the hell is that all about anyway?King Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11719101519748741966noreply@blogger.com