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Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Exploring Our Matrix: Is "The Bible Alone" an Oxymoron?

Exploring Our Matrix: Is "The Bible Alone" an Oxymoron?

Interesting post and interesting points. What are your thoughts? Is "the bible alone" an oxymoron? As Dr. McGrath's points out:
Doug Chaplin made [the following statement] recently (even though he called it "a cheap shot"):

“the Bible alone” doesn’t tell us which books should be in it.


Indeed the bible doesn't---in fact, the bible doesn't really have much to say about it's authors though we've deduced them for the most part. One example is the alleged "Mosaic" authorship of the Torah which isn't even supported by the Torah itself but the theory of the supposed authorship of the Torah by Moses comes to us by way of the Apocryphal Book Of Jubilees. It is clear however that Moses wrote some part of the Torah at least as some evidence suggests but the large majority of it was written by scribes through the remembrance of "Oral" tradition.

Thursday, October 1, 2009

Things Of Interest

See: Exploring Our Matrix: A Load Of Skubalon? What the Sheol?!.

A transgendered minister speaks out about revealing his secret to his congregation---see video: here.

New discovery made in the field of evolutionary science:
Earliest Human Ancestor Unveiled A Million Years Before 'Lucy,' There Was 'Ardi'
By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP
posted: 1 HOUR 49 MINUTES AGOcomments: 112filed under: Animal News, Science News
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WASHINGTON (Oct. 1) -- The story of humankind is reaching back another million years as scientists learn more about "Ardi," a hominid who lived 4.4 million years ago in what is now Ethiopia.
The 110-pound, 4-foot female roamed forests a million years before the famous Lucy, long studied as the earliest skeleton of a human ancestor.
This older skeleton reverses the common wisdom of human evolution, said anthropologist C. Owen Lovejoy of Kent State University.

(Read more: Here).

Wednesday, September 16, 2009

Exploring Our Matrix: Quote of the Day (Julia M. O'Brien)

Exploring Our Matrix: Quote of the Day (Julia M. O'Brien):
Quote of the Day (Julia M. O'Brien)

"A lot of verbage gets thrown around about the Bible (its perfection, its authority, its goodness) that makes sense only if you don't read it--or read it seriously. I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't say something about the Bible that isn't true about all of it. If you're going to talk about the Bible as the only rule of faith and practice, then you should be prepared to explain why you don't live your life by all of it.

I spend my energies trying to get people to spend less time spouting claims about the Bible and more time actually reading it, being honest about it, and valuing it for what it actually is."


-- Julia M. O'Brien, "Claims about the Bible Work Best if You Don't Actually Read It"

Monday, March 30, 2009

Why Biblical Criticism Is Important For The Church



Here are some quotes from James F. McGrath's recent post: Exploring Our Matrix: Review of Bart Ehrman, Jesus, Interrupted:
In his latest book, Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them), Bart Ehrman seeks to introduce a wider audience to important aspects of the New Testament. The contradictions, tensions and diversity of viewpoints in the Bible which Ehrman highlights, and the historical-critical approach he outlines, are common knowledge to Biblical scholars, as well as to anyone who had studied in a mainline seminary in the past half century or so. Yet more often than not, such information seems to fail to filter through to the wider populace. The information Ehrman presents is not at odds with Christian faith, although it is at odds with the claims that some Christians make about the Bible. Yet ironically, those Christians who affirm the Bible’s importance seem to put no greater effort into familiarizing themselves with the details of the Bible’s contents, much less scholarship that might aid in understanding it.

Ehrman recounts in the book how he entered seminary as a conservative Christian, ready to resist the attacks liberal scholars would wage against the Bible. Instead, he discovered that this scholarly way of viewing the Bible in fact made better sense and did more justice to what one actually finds in the Bible (p.6). And so Ehrman, like many other students of the Bible from conservative backgrounds (including myself), found his view of the Bible being challenged by the evidence itself (p.xi).

Because of his experience of conservative Evangelicalism, Ehrman is able to address not only the New Testament and other ancient writings from the same period, but also the strategies some Christians have developed for avoiding the natural implications of the Biblical evidence – for instance, “harmonizing”, which usually involves creating one’s own Gospel out of the four found in the New Testament, combining them so that one ends up with a version that isn’t what any of the canonical Gospels say (pp.7, 69-70).

Through the chapters of his book, Ehrman shows how the view of Jesus evolved with time in early Christianity (pp.73-82, 245-247, 260), showing in the process what is wrong with C. S. Lewis’ famous “trilemma” that Jesus must be either “liar, lunatic or Lord”: it assumes that Jesus made the claim to be divine attributed to him in the Gospel of John and only there among the canonical Gospels. A historian cannot have this confidence, and thus must add a fourth option, namely that this claim attributed to Jesus is a “legend” (pp.141-142). The nature of historical study, and its inability to affirm miracles as probable since they are by definition improbable, is also explained (pp.175-177).


In relation to this here is a post by Tony Cartledge: Baptists Today Blogs: Biblical criticism, when the new becomes old. My friend Justin's comment is of particular interest here:
Joshua Brown said...
Dr. Cartledge,

I'm looking forward to class today to hear how you handle the issue of biblical criticism. Those of us fortunate enough to study Religion, specifically Christianity, are well aware of the true nature of biblical criticism. However, as you stated, today's negative connotation of "criticism" makes it difficult to bring such scholarship into the church. Perhaps today's church often feels that scholars desire to tear down their faith instead of enlightening it. Whatever the reason, it's clear that the "older" (and newer)critical methods are lost on the largest population of Christianity: the congregation members. In a time where we give the people in the pews such power by telling them they can read and interpret the Bible for themselves, many ministers have made our congregations fear the very tools meant to help them in their task. Shame, shame, shame.
January 12, 2009 12:02 PM

Justin said...
Joshua said:
"it's clear that the "older" (and newer)critical methods are lost on the largest population of Christianity: the congregation members."

You have captured perfectly why I have feel called to the Church and to education (in the broadest sense of the word). There needs to be more and more people helping bridge the gap in responsible Bible Study!!! You've hit the nail on the head. Its not that they CAN'T do it, its that no one has (will) teach them how!

good comment!
j
January 12, 2009 1:43 PM


Anyways, while I agree with my pastor that from a pastoral level---historical criticism isn't helpful when dealing with congregational needs---however, I do believe that on an instructional level that pastors that are aware of biblical critical methods should at least make clear how these critical methods are of no danger to the congregations' faith and how biblical criticism can inform our faith. Also, I believe this is necessary to prevent the kinds of bibliolatry and abuses of the bible that is rampant in all types of churches, nowadays. This is also one of the reasons that I like Justin "have feel called to the Church and to education (in the broadest sense of the word)" and another reason why I started blogging. Also like Joshua, I have experienced first hand how "today's negative connotation of "criticism" makes it difficult to bring such scholarship into the church" when I tried to inform a small group I participated in about biblical critical methods. Most wouldn't hear of it as they believe the bible is clear and literally says what it means in a literal/face value sense. Most in the laity are also unaware of all the complexities and subtle nuances of the transmission/collation/translation/interpretation processes within an academic/scholarly hermeneutical framework of the bible. I think this all goes back to something Justin once said that there seems to be a disconnect between academic theology and the church. I agree and that's why we need more people like William Barclay and Bart D. Ehrman to make academic theology accessible to the church.

Wednesday, March 18, 2009

Issues With The Talibangelicals

Satire Of Talibangelicals

Here is a picture I first spotted on Exploring Our Matrix: God Hates Figs:
---originally from Street Prophets: Coffee Hour With Pastor Dan.

Here are the verses in total:
Matthew 21:18-20 (New King James Version)

The Fig Tree Withered

18 Now in the morning, as He returned to the city, He was hungry. 19 And seeing a fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it but leaves, and said to it, “Let no fruit grow on you ever again.” Immediately the fig tree withered away.
The Lesson of the Withered Fig Tree

20 And when the disciples saw it, they marveled, saying, “How did the fig tree wither away so soon?”


Mark 11:12-14 (New King James Version)

The Fig Tree Withered

12 Now the next day, when they had come out from Bethany, He was hungry. 13 And seeing from afar a fig tree having leaves, He went to see if perhaps He would find something on it. When He came to it, He found nothing but leaves, for it was not the season for figs. 14 In response Jesus said to it, “Let no one eat fruit from you ever again.”
And His disciples heard it.


Jeremiah 29:17 (New King James Version)

17 thus says the LORD of hosts: Behold, I will send on them the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, and will make them like rotten figs that cannot be eaten, they are so bad.


There use to be a website that satirizes Fred Phelps' site called God Hates Figs. Here are some other satirical sites: The Burning Taper: God Hates Figs! God Hates Rags! God Hates Shrimp!---

God Hates Shrimp, God Hates Rags and Fred Phelp's other site: God Hates The World.

Talibangelical Bibliolatry


Here is another picture that says it all about fundamentalists' bibliolatry: ---this picture comes by way of Ray Comfort's Blog. First of all, we are not called in the scriptures to believe in the bible (a manmade invention) but the one of whom the scriptures bear witness to.
John 17:19-21 (New International Version)
19For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.

Jesus Prays for All Believers
20"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
Secondly, given that fact---Jesus should be the center of all things not a Council of Nicaea sanctioned book which wasn't formalized in Protestant form until the Council of Trent and beyond and that by man's approval not God's.

Tony Jones And The Talibangelicals


See:
Why I'm Often Embarrassed to be a Christian

Wednesday March 11, 2009
Categories: Bible, Blogging, Church, GLBT, same sex marriage
Because Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins can go on TV and, with smiles on their faces, lie about our president, mis-interpret the Bible, and promote their latest farce book. To see what I'm talking about, read "Is Obama Satan's Warm-Up Act?" at Religion Dispatches, then watch the video at the bottom.

Well, at least I was invited, then uninvited, to write for a big preaching website today. Why the disinvitation? Because of my pro-gay marriage blog posts.

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And see:
Talking Original Sin with Todd Friel



Monday February 2, 2009
Categories: Theology
I'll be on Todd Friel's "Wretched Radio" program today at 3pm EST to talk about my recent posts on Original Sin. His show is on Sirius Radio and online.

Call in!

UPDATE: Not going on the show today. Todd and I just spoke on the phone. He didn't really want to talk about Original Sin but use that as a jumping off point to justification and soteriology. He made it clear that he thinks I am "knocking on the door" of heresy. He fears for my eternal salvation.

So, we chatted at length and decided not to have the radio interview today. Too much at stake. We're going to reschedule it for a couple of weeks from now.
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Friday, October 3, 2008

How to Be Evangelical Without Being Conservative

Ironic Quotes of the Day (Roger Olson)

"The irony should not escape us. Many conservative Christians oppose biological evolution while implicitly and unconsciously promoting a form of social Darwinism" (Roger E. Olson, How to Be Evangelical without Being Conservative (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2008) p.137).

"Luther is a hero to most conservative evangelical theologians. But the ironic tragedy is that too often they now fill the role of those inquisitors who demanded that Luther recant his newly discovered truths...But how can the church be reformed and always reforming if it doesn't allow for new Luthers with their desire and ability to make the Word fresh by discovering the new light breaking forth from it?" (Roger E. Olson, How to Be Evangelical without Being Conservative (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2008) p.150).


---------Interesting quotes.